94Custom
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« on: November 16, 2003, 11:48:53 PM » |
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i dont want to do a motor swap so im starting with a d16 pretty much everyone has told me to go turbo i can afford one no problem but my car is a everyday driver here is what it is d16 101 thousand no mods ever still all factory if i go with the greddy stage one do u think it would hold up for a long time i know it also can be how u drive it as well
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« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2003, 12:51:32 AM » |
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i know u said u dont want to but i would personally suggest a swap before u turbo the d16 and theres lots of reasons
even just a b16 ull be happy and its reliable and has alot of potential if u were to wanna build it/turbo it in the future, instead of spendin money on a turbo for the motor u already have. use the money for the turbo and throw in a b16a2 (i take it ur civic is a 94 from ur name)
still up to you but sorry i know u prob didnt want to hear me say ''swap it'' when u clearly said u didnt want to, my bad lol
~MiKe~
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cheebaboy
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« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2003, 09:03:45 AM » |
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there is a key on your keyboard. it's 2 keys to the left of your right side "SHIFT" key... right next to the / and ? key. when you push it, it makes a symbol like this -----> . LEARN HOW TO FUCKING USE IT! That shit makes no sense, and no one is going to heklp you if they can't read it!  |
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SiFactor
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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2003, 09:41:45 AM » |
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94Custom
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« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2003, 12:33:17 AM » |
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but as far as reliablity what do u guys think.
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rustdha1o
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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2003, 01:57:25 AM » |
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id say that if you do things right and tune you car with proper fuel management, turbo charging your car will not hurt it. there are plenty of cars that come boosted stock and last a long time. going with a kit would be quite a bit easier and safer than putting together a turbo setup yourself.
however, if you have enough money to buy a kit, id say swap in a b16 then boost that in the future. you'll be happier.
*edit* on another note, you'll probably be running 5-7psi with a greddy kit on an older d16. if you swap in a newer b16, you'll be making almost as much power
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« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2003, 09:04:58 AM » |
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it's a matter of 6 in one and half dozen in the other. if you turbo a D16, the ~1.42:1 R/S ratio limits you to boosting high levels reliably. if you want to boost more than 7psi, you're looking at either destroking the rotational assembly, or posting the block. both of which would make your project expensive.
at an average of 6psi, you're only looking at about 140, maybe 150whp. that can be easily had with a B16 and light mods. then if you want to boost, you'll have a solid platform to start from.... excellent R/S ratio (B16 = 1.76:1, 1:75 is considered perfect), nice flowing head and a high rev limit.
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i'll take what is given to me, and i'll realize i'm not going home. and after a while, when all of your currency's gone. and after a while, when all your mistakes have been made. you'll be tasting carbon dioxide.
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Toupe95
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« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2003, 11:07:36 AM » |
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R/S ratio's and block posting aren't things that this person will need to know about when running 6-7 psi on a d-series. Which is why I'm not even going to analyze your post. If you have not noticed from 94custom's other posts, he just wants to "go fast" and "be reliable." Probably not a motorholic like many on all the boards. That's probably why he is not willing to search and observe before opening his mouth asking dumb ass questions. Which is why there are always questions like "Can I run turbo and stay reliable?" This type of shit should really be in the noob forum, but oh well. The answers are out there, just search some. For fuck's sake.  |
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« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2003, 11:35:16 AM » |
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R/S ratio's and block posting aren't things that this person will need to know about when running 6-7 psi on a d-series. Which is why I'm not even going to analyze your post. If you have not noticed from 94custom's other posts, he just wants to "go fast" and "be reliable." Probably not a motorholic like many on all the boards. that's why i said boosting reliably would only give him what a simple motor swap would have given him. and if he wanted gobs of power, he would need to worry about things like friction, vibration and block posting. plus a swap would open doors for larger gains in the long run. probably why he is not willing to search and observe before opening his mouth asking dumb ass questions. Which is why there are always questions like "Can I run turbo and stay reliable?" This type of shit should really be in the noob forum, but oh well. The answers are out there, just search some. For fuck's sake. well, i too am a newbie (here atleast), so i wasn't about to jump on his shit for not searching. not that if i was a super special admin, i would jump on his shit anyhow. bringing negativity into play sucks the fun out of boards, and pretty much defeats the purpose of the hobby itself, which is fun. |
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i'll take what is given to me, and i'll realize i'm not going home. and after a while, when all of your currency's gone. and after a while, when all your mistakes have been made. you'll be tasting carbon dioxide.
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Toupe95
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« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2003, 12:42:53 PM » |
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He could easily boost reliably with a turbo timer and the other necessary equipment for engine longevity for less cost than a swap. Friction, vibration, and especially block posting would be the least of concerns with boosting the d up until 180ish with conservative street tuning and good equipment. With some dyno time and hondata I think the stock d16z6 could lay down 250. Of course that is irrelevant for the original posters goals.
I agree about negativity sucking life from the boards, but you being a newbie to this board kind of numbs you to 94custom's previous questions. If you look through his "find all posts by 94custom" link in his profile, you can get an idea of why some of the members here are relatively fed up with his questions. Dumb, lazy people can also take the fun out of this hobby too.
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Dilysi
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« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2003, 02:04:14 AM » |
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He could easily boost reliably with a turbo timer and the other necessary equipment for engine longevity for less cost than a swap. Friction, vibration, and especially block posting would be the least of concerns with boosting the d up until 180ish with conservative street tuning and good equipment. With some dyno time and hondata I think the stock d16z6 could lay down 250. |
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civic99si_07
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« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2003, 03:10:49 AM » |
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Go homemade man, I just finished gathering parts for my kit and it is going on next week, I am using an RHB5 turbine with an intercooler off of an older Audi Turbo model. There is a guy in town here that is running practically same setup with a 93 hatch with a D16Y8 and he is running consistant high 13's. I paid in total $600CAD, so in my mind its not even worth buying an aftermarket kit for $3000US+, either way good luck to ya, and I have a D16 as well.
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xMaTtYx
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« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2003, 08:49:56 AM » |
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Go homemade man, I just finished gathering parts for my kit and it is going on next week, I am using an RHB5 turbine with an intercooler off of an older Audi Turbo model. There is a guy in town here that is running practically same setup with a 93 hatch with a D16Y8 and he is running consistant high 13's. I paid in total $600CAD, so in my mind its not even worth buying an aftermarket kit for $3000US+, either way good luck to ya, and I have a D16 as well. you gotta be kidding me, here we go again  |
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I know it's a dumb question, but are you insterting the dipstick all the way when you check the oil?  |
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teesside
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« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2003, 08:51:35 AM » |
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xMaTtYx
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« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2003, 08:57:54 AM » |
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i enjoyed not having him around the forums this week, how bout you tees?  |
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I know it's a dumb question, but are you insterting the dipstick all the way when you check the oil? |
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teesside
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« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2003, 09:04:54 AM » |
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i couldnt care less matt
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civic99si_07
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« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2003, 09:37:01 AM » |
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Go homemade man, I just finished gathering parts for my kit and it is going on next week, I am using an RHB5 turbine with an intercooler off of an older Audi Turbo model. There is a guy in town here that is running practically same setup with a 93 hatch with a D16Y8 and he is running consistant high 13's. I paid in total $600CAD, so in my mind its not even worth buying an aftermarket kit for $3000US+, either way good luck to ya, and I have a D16 as well. you gotta be kidding me, here we go again And this time I will have pictures to show you. |
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xMaTtYx
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« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2003, 05:54:15 PM » |
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yea, thats what you said last time, we never got them |
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I know it's a dumb question, but are you insterting the dipstick all the way when you check the oil? |
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kewlmike
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« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2003, 09:24:27 PM » |
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There is a guy in town here that is running practically same setup with a 93 hatch with a D16Y8 and he is running consistant high 13's. ...isn't Mike running 13's with a turbo'd Bseries ?...... once again, I smell something stinky. |
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Dilysi
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« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2003, 10:41:08 PM » |
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constant high 13s could be probable...know someone who runs high 13s low 14s...all the time...d16y8, apexi fuel management...greddy 15g turbo...Welcome back rice liar  |
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« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2007, 07:50:50 PM » |
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Just get a DOHC engine, B16, B18 etc, etc. It will be a good start than diving into the complexities of a SOHC engine with high miles.
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What u runnin?
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« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2007, 12:02:19 PM » |
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way to dig up a 4 year old post there.
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SiFactor
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« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2007, 12:44:17 PM » |
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thanks man
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« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2007, 02:11:55 PM » |
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Damn, dily hasn't been around for almost a year.
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« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2007, 07:31:43 AM » |
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hey, i had the same problem as that guy once upon a time.
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